Most leaders try to fix problems fast. The best ones fix systems.

Dr. Shaun Nelms helped lead one of the lowest-performing schools in New York State to over 85% graduation rate. In this conversation, he breaks down leadership, system failure, and why real change starts with purpose, not quick fixes.

His book Leading with Purpose: Empowering Others to Create Lasting Change goes even deeper into the blueprint behind the work.

Inspiration for the Nation Sunday Mornings on Power 620: the iHeartRadio app and wherever you get your podcast.